<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608</id><updated>2012-02-16T09:49:41.404-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Philosopher's Muse</title><subtitle type='html'>Random Thoughts of Metaphysics and other enigmatic subjects . . .</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>12</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5562536</id><published>2001-09-08T13:44:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-08T13:44:26.723-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>                 From:  Kent Palmer - DSL &lt;palmer@exo.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Date:  Sat Sep 8, 2001  7:05 pm&lt;br /&gt;                 Subject:  What is Emptiness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 We have expressed the idea that emptiness and void are something&lt;br /&gt;                 different. Key in this realization was Lo Chen-Shun's critique of Buddhism&lt;br /&gt;                 from a Chinese perspective, and then subsequently finding STONEHOUSE's&lt;br /&gt;                 wonderful blending of these two perspectives. Also it helped to find the&lt;br /&gt;                 recently discovered Taoist writings that were lost to oblivion for so long&lt;br /&gt;                 and their description of the Court Taoism that lost out to Confucianism.&lt;br /&gt;                 This allows a different reading of the received Taoist texts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Essentially emptiness is the nature of inward existence as discovered by&lt;br /&gt;                 the Buddhists and void is the nature of outward existence as discovered by&lt;br /&gt;                 the Taoists. Interestingly enough Nietzsche had similar thoughts to these&lt;br /&gt;                 among his aphorisms. See the excellent book by Gordan Parkes on&lt;br /&gt;                 Nietzsche's psychology called Composing the Soul. In fact one might see&lt;br /&gt;                 Nietzsche's idea of will to power as one way of expressing the identity&lt;br /&gt;                 between these two viewpoints.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Jainism is the only tradition in India whtat equally accept the material&lt;br /&gt;                 and the psychical worlds as co-equal and supra-rationally related.&lt;br /&gt;                 Buddhism following Hinduism in general discounts the existence of the&lt;br /&gt;                 material world. Savite religion however does have some elements similar to&lt;br /&gt;                 Taoism in its affirmation of the Tatvas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Generally the distinction between Taoism and Buddhism/Hinduism is that&lt;br /&gt;                 Taoism believes that man is only nature while Buddhism/Taoism believe that&lt;br /&gt;                 consciousness is the ultimate ground and nothing exists outside of&lt;br /&gt;                 consciousness. The Jains come closet to the truth in affirming that both&lt;br /&gt;                 are true simultaneiously without interference. Jainism has the seven&lt;br /&gt;                 statements that move from A or ~A or indeterminate to A and ~A and&lt;br /&gt;                 indeterminate through all combinations of these elements but still they&lt;br /&gt;                 support the ultimacy of Beng. Buddhism on the other hand contributes the&lt;br /&gt;                 idea of Emptiness moving beyond Hinduism's immersion in Being as sat citta&lt;br /&gt;                 ananda.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 One way of thinking about these two horizons is in terms of Meta-systems.&lt;br /&gt;                 Each horizon, inward and outward, are meta-systems within which the&lt;br /&gt;                 systems of objects and thoughts, i.e. physus and logos unfold. But of&lt;br /&gt;                 course both Buddhists and Taoists have very different ways of approaching&lt;br /&gt;                 these things than the western distinction underlying our current&lt;br /&gt;                 metaphysical worldview which talks about physus/logos. When Buddhists deny&lt;br /&gt;                 the reality of the physical world, along with most Hindus, or when Taoists&lt;br /&gt;                 deny the difference between nature and the human there is a kind of&lt;br /&gt;                 slight and subtle, i.e. diaphanous, onesidedness in relation to the nature&lt;br /&gt;                 of conscious existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Interestingly just as Being inscribed into it's core, so to does Existence&lt;br /&gt;                 have being inscribed into it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 But what is even more interesting is the deeper non-dual of manifestation&lt;br /&gt;                 beyond existence. Existence is still about things, things found, either&lt;br /&gt;                 inwardly or outwardly. The question of inward verses outward is really a&lt;br /&gt;                 question of medium, is it consciousness that contains everything or&lt;br /&gt;                 spacetime?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 But beyond the attributes of things are&lt;br /&gt;                 broader attributes, many times ascribed to God, which only appear in the&lt;br /&gt;                 interaction of things. These higher order attributes can be seen as a&lt;br /&gt;                 manifestation of something beyond things normally thought of as the source&lt;br /&gt;                 of things. For instance, mercy, is not the attribute of one thing but at&lt;br /&gt;                 least two things, like mother and child. These higher order attributes do&lt;br /&gt;                 not exist in the same sense as things or their attributes exist. Normally&lt;br /&gt;                 in order to see them we have to look through the things as it were,&lt;br /&gt;                 through a glass darkly. But what happens when these higher order&lt;br /&gt;                 attributes that span multiple things are brought to the foreground and&lt;br /&gt;                 things receed into the background. This is one way of thinking about what&lt;br /&gt;                 annihilation of the self is like in the Islamic Sufi tradition. In that&lt;br /&gt;                 tradition there is an immersion in the attributes of God in which things&lt;br /&gt;                 receed from view, this wrenches the locus of experience out of time from&lt;br /&gt;                 the experience of in-time or endless time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 STONEHOUSE is definitely on the verge of this horizon in his close&lt;br /&gt;                 juxtaposition of the Taoist and Zen Buddhist ways of looking at existence.&lt;br /&gt;                 However, we see it full blown in Sufism that reaches into a deeper&lt;br /&gt;                 non-dual arena that those non-duals that are proposed by the Buddhists or&lt;br /&gt;                 Taoists separately. A good example of this is Shaykh al-Niffari's work on&lt;br /&gt;                 stations ('stayings' as Arberry tranlates it.) We can also see it clearly&lt;br /&gt;                 in the work of Shaykh al-Akbar and various other Sufi Wali's, i.e. friends of&lt;br /&gt;                 God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Now it is these differences between Buddhism and Taoism and Sufism that is&lt;br /&gt;                 of interest. These differences are covered over completely by the&lt;br /&gt;                 relativism and perennialism of the spiritual marketplace. There is deep&lt;br /&gt;                 meaning in these differences. Each of these goals are legitimate in their&lt;br /&gt;                 own way. And in fact the practioners of these various ways need to be in a&lt;br /&gt;                 dialogue with each other about their discoveries on their various horizons&lt;br /&gt;                 of non-experience that define the various aspects of the non-dual which is&lt;br /&gt;                 the soure of genuine spirituality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Rather than seeing them as thesis, anti-thesis and synthesis we can&lt;br /&gt;                 instead look at them in terms of the special systems theory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 We can think of the medium of consciousness and the medium of spacetime or&lt;br /&gt;                 nature as supra-rationally conjuncted as two meta-sysems. They are very&lt;br /&gt;                 different existenital media, i.e. empty and void respectively. What arises&lt;br /&gt;                 in each medium are systems, forms, patterns, monads, facets, i.e.&lt;br /&gt;                 exemplifying the various meta-levels of Being. In our&lt;br /&gt;                 meta-physical worldview we interpret that as physus and logos. But of&lt;br /&gt;                 course we are sensitive to the existence inscribed into the differences&lt;br /&gt;                 between the meta-levels of Being and their lack of a fifth meta-level.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 But consider, between the conjuncted supra-rational meta-systems that the&lt;br /&gt;                 Jains saw, and which we see through as existence not Being either from&lt;br /&gt;                 the perspective of Buddhism or Taoism and their deeper non-dual manifestation,&lt;br /&gt;                 between these meta-systems and their respective systems (in physus and logos),&lt;br /&gt;                 there is a series of special systems . . . disipative, autopoietic and&lt;br /&gt;                 reflexive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 For instance there is the dissipative logos and the dissipative physus&lt;br /&gt;                 that form an autopoietic unity through conjunction. Two of these together,&lt;br /&gt;                 say as man and wife form a reflexive special system composed of two&lt;br /&gt;                 elements of physus and two elements of logos. This gives rise to six&lt;br /&gt;                 relations between the four dissipative special systems. If they were just&lt;br /&gt;                 systems we might think of them in terms of Bubberian I-it relations, but&lt;br /&gt;                 within their reflexive mode we might combine Jung and Bubber to see&lt;br /&gt;                 Self-Thou relations when we talk of interpenetrating totalities that are&lt;br /&gt;                 ultimately empty. The point is that the viritual pairs in their&lt;br /&gt;                 conjunction outnumber their actual pairings in physical conjunction&lt;br /&gt;                 through their bodies. This conjunctive virtuality verses embodies&lt;br /&gt;                 conjunction is one way to define the difference between the realm of&lt;br /&gt;                 consciousness and the spacetime realm of nature.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 When we talk of combining two meta-systems of different media and their&lt;br /&gt;                 respective systems/anti-system formations then the orthogonal differentiation&lt;br /&gt;                 is into the realm of manifestation rather than either emptiness or void.&lt;br /&gt;                 This is a new horizon that opens up which we can approach in terms of its&lt;br /&gt;                 emptiness or in terms of its voidness, but these are approximations to the&lt;br /&gt;                 understanding of the deeper non-duality of manifestation which is&lt;br /&gt;                 orthogonal to the conjunction of the two.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Go beyond Being, by ascending the meta-levels of Being as steps to no&lt;br /&gt;                 where . .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Then, find emptines, or find the void depending on which horizon draws&lt;br /&gt;                 you onward away from the self.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Then find the other side of existence to that which drew you in the&lt;br /&gt;                 first palce beyond Being. Go from emptiness to void or vice versa.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Then conjunct empty-void or void-emptiness and discover the horizon of&lt;br /&gt;                 manifestation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Manifestation is orthogonal and a deeper non-dual than either void&lt;br /&gt;                 existence or empty existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Enjoy the stations and stayings that goes beyond the existence of things&lt;br /&gt;                 including the conscious existence or the embodied existence that we find&lt;br /&gt;                 ourselves existing as.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 This placeless time and timeless place of the soul-spirit (ruh-nafs)&lt;br /&gt;                 annihilated then going-on as overwhemed by the manifestation of attrbutes&lt;br /&gt;                 of God (See http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/names.html)&lt;br /&gt;                 that appears more primordially than the empty-void or void-emptiness is a&lt;br /&gt;                 deeper non-dual groundless ground there before or after endlesstime in the&lt;br /&gt;                 out-of-time realm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Note manifestation is something that goes beyond pervasion and syllogism,&lt;br /&gt;                 i.e. beyond count and non-count ways of looking at things. It has an anti-&lt;br /&gt;                 logic of its own that is summed up in Sura Iklas (See&lt;br /&gt;                 http://info.uah.edu/msa/quran/yusufali/112.TheUnity.html).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 A guide book to this realm is THE MEANING OF MAN by Sidi Ali al-Jamal&lt;br /&gt;                 (Diwan Press) or The HIKAM of Ibn 'Ata'llah (See&lt;br /&gt;                 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/hikam.html) or various&lt;br /&gt;                 other books by genuine Sufic masters from the Islamic&lt;br /&gt;                 tradition (See http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ABewley/).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Of course, all this is merely meant to stir more discussion among the&lt;br /&gt;                 adherents of the genuinely spiritual traditions that make the&lt;br /&gt;                 non-nihilistic distinction between form and formlessness as the threshold&lt;br /&gt;                 beyond which we much go in order to find the meanings that pour out from&lt;br /&gt;                 the untrammeled void of nature and the pristine emptiness of&lt;br /&gt;                 consciousness. Each of those traditions will see their own way as&lt;br /&gt;                 ultimate, and perhaps they are. Immersed in formlessness it is difficult&lt;br /&gt;                 to distinguish whether we are Buddhist, Taoist, or Muslim. But here we&lt;br /&gt;                 merely draw out the implicaitons of the various traditions and through&lt;br /&gt;                 their comparison attempt to open ourselves up to deeper alternatives. More&lt;br /&gt;                 interesting things for the Buddha, or Lao Tzu or the Sufic Masters to say&lt;br /&gt;                 in this age where it is necessary to cut through the illusion of the&lt;br /&gt;                 spiritual marketplace by unearthing the genuine meanings that pour fourth&lt;br /&gt;                 from the sources of existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;                 Kent&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5562536?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5562536'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5562536'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5562536' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5508293</id><published>2001-09-05T19:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-05T19:17:02.860-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&lt;br /&gt;   Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 18:09:42 -0700 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;   From: Kent Palmer - DSL &lt;kdp@exo.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subject: What is Emptiness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the previous message we made a big assumption that needs some support,&lt;br /&gt;that emptiness and void are not just something personal and interpretive&lt;br /&gt;of one's experience but is in fact something "objectively observable" at&lt;br /&gt;least by some group of experts who observe some set of anomalies. This is&lt;br /&gt;a claim that makes Buddhism, and Taoism as well as Sufism a viewpoint from&lt;br /&gt;which a new kind of science that improves on Western science might be&lt;br /&gt;posited from. In other words genuine spirituality, i.e. based on&lt;br /&gt;formlessness, can be a basis from which to see the world in a way that&lt;br /&gt;competes with Western science, in some sense. By targeting Western science&lt;br /&gt;and showing that western scientific phenomena are empty as well as the&lt;br /&gt;worldview itself we offer the greatest possible challenge to the Western&lt;br /&gt;worldivew.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We also said that emptiness and void contain specific kinds of order&lt;br /&gt;without there being any less empty or void, in other words without&lt;br /&gt;succumbing to becoming something non-empty or non-void. Thus the challenge&lt;br /&gt;there is not just to the paradigm of Western science and philosophy but&lt;br /&gt;also to the Buddhist, Taoist and Sufic ways of looking at things as well,&lt;br /&gt;in as much as they leave emptiness, void and annihilation of the self&lt;br /&gt;undefined and amorphous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what we need is a simple way to get into the subject. This is provided&lt;br /&gt;by Perfect, Amicable and Sociable Numbers. These numbers offer a simple&lt;br /&gt;analogy to special systems. These numbers are created by adding the&lt;br /&gt;divisors of a number and seeing whether it adds up to the number itself or&lt;br /&gt;some other related number. Normally the divisors add up to more or less&lt;br /&gt;than the number itself. But in some cases these other numbers are related&lt;br /&gt;back to the original number either by one other number or a chain of&lt;br /&gt;numbers that return to this same number. Thus these numbers relate to the&lt;br /&gt;special systems in the following way:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;System -- whole greater than the sum of its parts = sum greater than&lt;br /&gt;number without relating back to the original number = Householder&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dissipative = amicable number = DHARMA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Autopoitic  = perfect number = BUDDHA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reflexive = sociable number = SANGA&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meta-system -- whole less than the sum of its parts = sum less than number&lt;br /&gt;without relating back to the original number = all those who leave home to&lt;br /&gt;follow the ascetic lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perfect numbers are very rare, like the Buddhas with perfect&lt;br /&gt;enlightenment. They are a whole that is directly equal to the sum of its&lt;br /&gt;parts. In other words there is transparency between parts and whole.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Amicable numbers are fairly numerous, like the Dharma which is a set of&lt;br /&gt;words that describe the laws of emptiness and interpenetration. One number&lt;br /&gt;adds up to the parts of another number that in turn has parts that add up&lt;br /&gt;to the first number. There is balance that is delayed. This is like the&lt;br /&gt;delay between words of skillful means and what they describe. The set of&lt;br /&gt;words that describe emptiness and interpenetration add up to the whole of&lt;br /&gt;existence which in turn has parts, dharmas, that together add up to the&lt;br /&gt;whole of the words that are said by a Buddha. Dharma is the Law as a whole&lt;br /&gt;and it is the phenomenological elements of existence as well. This law is&lt;br /&gt;filtered though the words of the Buddha that add up to an indication of&lt;br /&gt;the truth about emptiness and interpenetration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reflexive numbers are like amicable numbers except instead of being in a&lt;br /&gt;pair they are in a series. This reflexive series is like the sanga that&lt;br /&gt;transmits the dharma to each other in a chain. The beginning of the chain&lt;br /&gt;is Shakyamuni and the end of the chain is Maitreya who are inwardly the&lt;br /&gt;same. This is a balance with an even greater delay in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The three jewels exemplify the order of the special systems. They embody&lt;br /&gt;this order in existence. This order has mathematical analogs that are&lt;br /&gt;unique and anomalous. This order has a special relation to existence that&lt;br /&gt;is different from the relation to Being. In effect the special systems&lt;br /&gt;signify the separations between the various kinds of Being in relation to&lt;br /&gt;the system and meta-system that express the more normal state of affairs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Western science studies the system and is blind to the meta-system.&lt;br /&gt;Because it cannot see the meta-system the special systems are even more&lt;br /&gt;invisible to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way this is not numerology. Instead it uses a mathematical system&lt;br /&gt;as an analogy for a kind of embodied order that spontaneously manifests&lt;br /&gt;everywhere it is not suppressed, it is what Stuart Kauffman calls order&lt;br /&gt;from nowhere. Nihilistic cultural forms suppress this spontaneous order&lt;br /&gt;and substitutes unbalanced artifical and madeup projected orders for it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Buddhas exemplify and embody special systems in existence. Reaching&lt;br /&gt;enlightenment is synonomous with reaching the ground of existence that is&lt;br /&gt;between system and meta-system, the middle way that is non-dual and a&lt;br /&gt;model of interpenetration. When the Buddha touches earth it is the earth&lt;br /&gt;of the special systems that is touched in that gesture. The mudras of the&lt;br /&gt;Buddha express the structure of the special systems in a way similar to&lt;br /&gt;the structure of the perfect, amicable and sociable numbers are also an&lt;br /&gt;indication of it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are many things in Buddhism that are indications of the specific&lt;br /&gt;structure of the special systems and their mathematical underpinnings.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, authenticity of Buddhist enlightenment can be tested implicitly&lt;br /&gt;by the fact that the specific signature of the special systems is evident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words, anything that an enlightened person, i.e. a person with&lt;br /&gt;perfect enlightenment, does should exemplify the effortless adherence to&lt;br /&gt;the form of no-form expressed by special systems theory.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Traces of this can be seen in the sutras. Many times the content of the&lt;br /&gt;suttras is not as important as the demonstration that perfect&lt;br /&gt;enlightenment has been achieved by tracing the signature of the special&lt;br /&gt;systems. It is spontaneously produced and spontaneously recognized by&lt;br /&gt;those who have attained this understanding.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For instance there is the bell that exemplifies the dissipative system in&lt;br /&gt;as much as sound dissipaties order.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is the vajra that is many times double sided that exemplifies the&lt;br /&gt;autopoietic system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is the beads that form a cyclical series like the sociable numbers&lt;br /&gt;that represent the reflexive system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that the Bell and Beads are related to the ordering of human&lt;br /&gt;and non-human sounds whereas the vajra reprsents silence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;See http://www.tibet.com/Buddhism/3objects.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What this means for the rest of us is that the existence of this special&lt;br /&gt;ordering is a kind of litmus test for Buddhahood. Buddhahood naturally&lt;br /&gt;gives a strong signal of this non-dual formless form.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is the inner meaning of the signs of Buddhahood on the body of the&lt;br /&gt;Buddha.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Intellectually knowing this patterning does not mean you can produce it or&lt;br /&gt;recognize it spontaneously. However it does mean that with analysis we can&lt;br /&gt;after the fact spot the traces of the Buddha, these are the same traces&lt;br /&gt;left by the Taoist, or Sufi, because the non-dual ground is the same for&lt;br /&gt;all non-dual genuinely spirtual traditions. However, each tradition takes&lt;br /&gt;up and expresses this formless form differently.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We can use the knowledge of the order embedded in formlessness as a guide&lt;br /&gt;for understanding on an intellectual level the kind of relation the&lt;br /&gt;non-dual has with dualisms. It is this relation that is inscribed into&lt;br /&gt;physical phenomena, into mathematics, and in to language in myriad ways&lt;br /&gt;that become recognizable once we understand the pattern of special systems&lt;br /&gt;theory. We can use this to understand how Western science misses the&lt;br /&gt;non-dual middle way and then attempt to triangulate on it better through&lt;br /&gt;our knowledge of the special order that is inscribed within the void&lt;br /&gt;itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Special systems theory is the rosetta stone that allows us to connnect&lt;br /&gt;various non-dual traditions in the history of various cultures and allow&lt;br /&gt;us to understand them anew in their relation to the human lifeworld as it&lt;br /&gt;unfolds from us when we encounter formlessness in the midst of form or&lt;br /&gt;form in the midst of formlessness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5508293?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5508293'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5508293'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5508293' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5461787</id><published>2001-09-03T15:04:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-03T15:04:10.556-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>  Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:52:50 -0700 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;   From: Kent Palmer - DSL &lt;kdp@exo.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subject: What is emptiness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Continuing on our adventure, now that we have seen that Being itself is&lt;br /&gt;fragmented and that it is inscribed with emptiness, we can ask if there is&lt;br /&gt;anything more we can say about emptiness, than merely the facts that it is&lt;br /&gt;non-dual, non-nihilistic, supra-rational, and is represented in the core&lt;br /&gt;of the Western worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What we would like to say is something strong about it, something that&lt;br /&gt;stands up to the tests of Western Science as well as Western Philosophy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It does seem that if emptiness is "REAL" that in some sense it should be&lt;br /&gt;the basis of a challenge to Western science. In fact what we would like is&lt;br /&gt;an alternative to Western science, some sort of Non-dual alternative to&lt;br /&gt;dualistic science of the west that is destroying the planet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know that if something is to challenge the dominance of Western science&lt;br /&gt;it would have to first have a foundation in mathematics, and second be&lt;br /&gt;supported with physical phenomena that the mathemanics uniquely modeled.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what kind of science would a non-dual science be? We normally thing of&lt;br /&gt;emptiness and void as amorphous and due to their formlessness it is&lt;br /&gt;difficult to see how they could figure into a scientific way of looking at&lt;br /&gt;things in any way, shape or form.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But let us step back and approach this more cautiously. Perhaps the&lt;br /&gt;Western worldview makes some assumptions that are very general but turn&lt;br /&gt;out not to be valid. One of those assumptions is that Science is what&lt;br /&gt;everyone can observe, that science is based on what the comon man&lt;br /&gt;percieves and what groups of men can agree on. We owe this assumption&lt;br /&gt;again to Aristotle. Our western science is Aristotelian. But if we look at&lt;br /&gt;the works of Plato we see that Plato had a very different idea of what&lt;br /&gt;science was about. Plato believed that it was not what the common man saw&lt;br /&gt;but about what special observers saw. Plato looked for a science of&lt;br /&gt;anomalies rather than what we held in common and agreed to. This kind of&lt;br /&gt;special condition of observers and phenomena is something similar to what&lt;br /&gt;the Buddhists posit. The Buddhists posit that those who meditate are&lt;br /&gt;speical observers, and the world they see, i.e. the empty world has&lt;br /&gt;special and anomalous properties.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So both Buddhism and Plato have very similar criteria for understanding&lt;br /&gt;the nature of existence. If we were to posit these in terms of systems&lt;br /&gt;theory we would call them "special systems". Just as non-dual means Not&lt;br /&gt;One and Not Two, so we might expect the special systems to be not systems&lt;br /&gt;and not ecosystems (which I call meta-systems). Is there perhaps another&lt;br /&gt;alternative of special anomalous systems that we might formulate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us begin by defining a system phenomenologically as a social gestalt.&lt;br /&gt;It is a whole that you see along with others and agree upon to be a&lt;br /&gt;"system" of interrelated parts that cohere in spacetime. Systems are in&lt;br /&gt;the eyes of the beholders.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A meta-system on the other hand is the context, situation, or milieu of&lt;br /&gt;the system, ecosystem is a good word, or environment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let us define systems as wholes greater than the sum of their parts. Let&lt;br /&gt;us define meta-systems as wholes less than the sum of their parts.&lt;br /&gt;Meta-systems have niches into which systems fit, those niches are tailor&lt;br /&gt;made holes for the wholes of systems to fit into. Meta-systems have a very&lt;br /&gt;different nature than sysetms. A good book about this is Arkady&lt;br /&gt;Plotnitsky's COMPLEMENTARITY. He uses Batille's idea taken from Nietzsche&lt;br /&gt;of the "General Economy" as opposed to the "Restricted Economy" of the&lt;br /&gt;system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now once we understand the nature of the duality of Systems and&lt;br /&gt;Meta-systems then we can ask if there is anything that is a whole exactly&lt;br /&gt;equal to the sum of its parts, that exists between the system and the&lt;br /&gt;meta-system but is different from either of these.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The answer to this question is Yes. Special Systems. There are three of&lt;br /&gt;them: Dissipative, Autopoietic and Reflexive. They constitute the basis of&lt;br /&gt;an anomalous science. You can read about them in my paper on REFLEXIVE&lt;br /&gt;AUTOPOIETIC DISSIPATIVE SPECIAL SYSTEMS THEORY at&lt;br /&gt;http://shell.exo.com/~palmer/autopoiesis.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is also quite a bit of material about them on my homepage, see&lt;br /&gt;http://shell.exo.com/~palmer/kent_palmer.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here I will just mention that the mathematical basis for these special&lt;br /&gt;systems are a model of interpenetration. They also model the arising of&lt;br /&gt;things out of the void through a process called autogenesis. They have&lt;br /&gt;anomalous physical phenomena that exist on this same form which embody&lt;br /&gt;these structures and show that they are real, in the scientific sense&lt;br /&gt;accepted by Western Science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Special Systems thoery is a basis for a Buddhist Science, a Taoist&lt;br /&gt;Science, a Prophetic Science ---- in other words a Non-dual science. All&lt;br /&gt;of the conditions that Western science places on us are fullfilled by&lt;br /&gt;special systems theory, but this is not to say that they leave Western&lt;br /&gt;science untouched. The existence of this anomalous science transforms the&lt;br /&gt;possiblities of Western science as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Special Systems Theory is the beginning of a new era, in which Genuine&lt;br /&gt;Spiritual teachings are the basis of a scientific approach to existence&lt;br /&gt;which surpasses Western science is subtlety and sophistication. Not merely&lt;br /&gt;the TAO OF SCIENCE analogies between mystical maxims AND quantum and&lt;br /&gt;relativistic theories. Rather a full blown scientific theory which&lt;br /&gt;exemplifies the unique structures of the non-dual phenomena. A theory of&lt;br /&gt;static and dynamic balances at arise out of and return to the void, that&lt;br /&gt;exemplify non-production non-destruction as a non-dual way of looking at&lt;br /&gt;the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is the challenge of the Buddhists, Taoists and Sufis to develop this&lt;br /&gt;theory and other theories like this one into a full blown challenge to&lt;br /&gt;Western scientific assumptions with their disasterous side-effects. Isn't&lt;br /&gt;it about time genuine spirituality, i.e. the spirituality of formlessness&lt;br /&gt;produced a challenge to the disasterous science of form?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emptiness and Void are known ultimately through our praxis. That praxis&lt;br /&gt;needs to be based on meditation and the transformation that meditation&lt;br /&gt;makes possible in our selves, when we realize those selves like everything&lt;br /&gt;else are empty and void. But the effects of this praxis can not only reach&lt;br /&gt;into reason, and thought but also into the scientific products of thought.&lt;br /&gt;Emptiness and Void as the aspects of inward and outward existence are&lt;br /&gt;completely transformative, in other words they can transform all delusion&lt;br /&gt;utterly, even that of Western Philosophy and Science, by cutting to the&lt;br /&gt;heart of this worldview and conquering it in its own terms.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dzong Ka Ba accepts excluded middle. His point is that Buddhism even works&lt;br /&gt;if we accept this crazy Aristotleian doctrine. How could it be an ultimate&lt;br /&gt;reality if it did not function in all possible modes of existence, even&lt;br /&gt;those that are ultra-delusional like that of the Western Scientific and&lt;br /&gt;Philosophical tradition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Non-dual science has real effects because the anomalous phenomena that&lt;br /&gt;show its existence are real physical phenomena. The math that underlies it&lt;br /&gt;are unique mathematical structures that exist in higher mathematics. It is&lt;br /&gt;only seeing through the eye of non-dual interpenetration that is&lt;br /&gt;different, i.e. the eye of meditation and selflessness. It reveals a&lt;br /&gt;wonderous world that western science never dreamed of but they are&lt;br /&gt;discovering more and more that this is the underlying reality of the&lt;br /&gt;common science. That underlying reality sees with special observers&lt;br /&gt;anomalous and special phenomena that exemplify the uderlying reality based&lt;br /&gt;on emptiness and void. Emptiness and Void have structure, that is the&lt;br /&gt;secret, they are not merely amorphous blobs, but actually have a very&lt;br /&gt;specific structure that realizes and actualizes interpenetration of all&lt;br /&gt;things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Welcome to an alternative universe where genuine spiritual practices give&lt;br /&gt;rise to scientific views of things more profound than the wildly&lt;br /&gt;successful but unfortunately delusional Western science.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is emptiness? What is void? The basis of a new scientific theory that&lt;br /&gt;transforms Western science from the ground up and utterly, and thereby&lt;br /&gt;transforms us as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5461787?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461787'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461787'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5461787' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5461688</id><published>2001-09-03T14:59:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-03T14:59:36.600-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Let us take a look at the Nihilistic Spiritual Marketplace. What we see&lt;br /&gt;right away is that this marketplace has a structure similar to the levels&lt;br /&gt;of Being that have just been described.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being^0 myriad commodified spiritual paths&lt;br /&gt;Being^1 Reification&lt;br /&gt;Being^2 Nihilism Production&lt;br /&gt;Being^3 Relativism -- Perennialism&lt;br /&gt;Being^4 Fascism of the Cult&lt;br /&gt;------------emptiness-void------------&lt;br /&gt;Being^5 Beyond Form in Formlessness&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How does this marketplace, in which Sufism, Taoism and Buddhism along with&lt;br /&gt;many other spiritual paths are commodities, work?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First of all the whole market is predicated on some important&lt;br /&gt;worldhistorical trends.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- Colonialization has subjugated the entire world to the western&lt;br /&gt;worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- The western worldview despite its global dominance is felt to be&lt;br /&gt;spiritually bankrupt by many of its inhabitants&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- Orientalization has occured through academic disciplines focused on&lt;br /&gt;world religions from outside the western world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- These other religious traditions from conquered countries seem to have&lt;br /&gt;something to offer missing in indigenous religous traditions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- A market place for commodification of other spiritual traditions&lt;br /&gt;imported from throughtout the world is constructed by offering&lt;br /&gt;translations, books about these other religions, and claimed spiritual&lt;br /&gt;teachers from these other traditions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-- Indigenous religious traditions also are taken in and compete in the&lt;br /&gt;new spiritual marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When a tradition is swept into this marketplace it is reified by the&lt;br /&gt;orientalist interpetation which highlights seeming radical differences&lt;br /&gt;from what is available in Western religous traditions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The person introduced to so many different traditions gets lost in the&lt;br /&gt;variety of claimants of truth, normally this occurs because the person&lt;br /&gt;tends to move from path to path until they all seem to merge into the same&lt;br /&gt;thing. This produces an nihilistic reaction in the buyer of spiritual&lt;br /&gt;commodities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Eventually a meta-position toward the various alternatives in the&lt;br /&gt;marketplace is formulated. It has two nihilistic horns. First is&lt;br /&gt;relativism that says that these paths are really all equal. Second is&lt;br /&gt;Perennialism that says that their goals are all the same.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To these nihilistic horns we answer that there is actually a hierarchy&lt;br /&gt;among spiritual paths and that the goals of all paths are not equal. This&lt;br /&gt;answer is however not Politically Correct within the spiritual&lt;br /&gt;marketplace. The meta-belief system is now that of the spiritual&lt;br /&gt;marketplace's founations not the beliefs of any one of the commodified&lt;br /&gt;religous perspectives encompassed by the marketplace. The key is the&lt;br /&gt;ability to take up and put down various belief systems from the catalogue&lt;br /&gt;of the marketplace as easily as possible. In other words it is necessary&lt;br /&gt;to make it so that holding any of these beliefs has a minimal impact on&lt;br /&gt;one's actions or stance in the world. They are belief systems not action&lt;br /&gt;systems. They do not impact our living in suburban houses and shopping at&lt;br /&gt;the mall.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally we note that the various claimants produce fascist cults in many&lt;br /&gt;cases drawing out the cultic aspects of Western society and intensifying&lt;br /&gt;that social experience indemic in our culture.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What appears to be myriad foreign cultic groups are really indigenous&lt;br /&gt;phenomena using foreign contents. What is important is that the content&lt;br /&gt;is really of less interest than the cultic form itself which is an&lt;br /&gt;expression of modern western society more than any foreign influence. We&lt;br /&gt;can see this because many cults actually are formed based on indigenous&lt;br /&gt;materials.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An excellent ancient example of this was Mithrism, which was a greek cult&lt;br /&gt;formed out of Zoroastrian contents among the greeks. Foreign contents were&lt;br /&gt;used to create another greek mystery religion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism, Taoism and Sufism (all examples of genuine spiritual paths) when&lt;br /&gt;they are inducted into the spiritual marketplace and commodified tend to&lt;br /&gt;lose their intrinsic significance. What unites them is that they all&lt;br /&gt;expound the concept of formlessness as being far more basic than forms.&lt;br /&gt;But they are compared side by side with other ways that are based on forms,&lt;br /&gt;like shamanism, for instance. Thus a fundamental distinction between ways based&lt;br /&gt;on formlessness and those based on forms is obscured by the nihilistic&lt;br /&gt;spiritual marketplace. In fact this is why it is nihilistic, it obscures&lt;br /&gt;the distinction between form and formlessness as a fundamental criteria&lt;br /&gt;for the recognition of genuine spirituality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What complicates the whole issue is the fact that Buddhism, Taoism and&lt;br /&gt;Sufism all have specific cultural representations that are fundamentally&lt;br /&gt;tied to forms, and thus themselves are not pure. So it is intrinsically&lt;br /&gt;hard to tell genuine from non-genuine spiritual traditions. But this is a&lt;br /&gt;non-nihilistic distinction which it behoves us to make despite its&lt;br /&gt;difficulty to the best of our ability.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is suggested that there needs to be some dialogue between the practioners&lt;br /&gt;of various genuine spiritual ways which would emphasize what&lt;br /&gt;they have in common and which meaningfully points out differences between&lt;br /&gt;these cognate paths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note that because the spiritual marketplace has the form of the kinds of&lt;br /&gt;Being, that it ends at the fifth meta-level, i.e. it deadends itself when&lt;br /&gt;it hits the threshold of formlessness, whether thought of in terms of&lt;br /&gt;emptiness, void or annihliation of the self. Thus all the genuine&lt;br /&gt;spiritual ways that exist in the spiritual marketplace can all point&lt;br /&gt;toward this threshold that they all have insight into and share. The&lt;br /&gt;difference between a genuine spiritual tradition and those that are not&lt;br /&gt;genuine is that the genuine traditions can pass beyond the spiritual&lt;br /&gt;marketpalce themselves while those that worship forms cannot. Those that&lt;br /&gt;worship forms are trapped in the spiritual marketplace. Those that do not&lt;br /&gt;worship forms can pass beyond the spiritual marketplace into the realm of&lt;br /&gt;freedom beyond it described by formlessness. This means that even the&lt;br /&gt;aspects of Buddhism, Taoism and Sufism that are not genuine, i.e. are tied&lt;br /&gt;to forms, are also trapped in the spiritual marketplace. Commodities must&lt;br /&gt;all be forms. What is beyond forms ultimately escapes commodification.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The spiritual marketplace is a form of delusion that we need to cut&lt;br /&gt;through with the sword of formlessness. Entering into it merely sullies&lt;br /&gt;and besmirches the purity of genuinely spiritual paths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The spiritual marketplace is a general economy in Bataille's sense. It&lt;br /&gt;exists as a way of controlling these foreign spiritual traditions and&lt;br /&gt;lessening their impact.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But another way of dealing with it is to show that we do not need these&lt;br /&gt;foreign spiritual paths to express the inherent emptiness of the Western&lt;br /&gt;worldview. We can point to emptiness within the spiritual marketplace by&lt;br /&gt;considering its meta-level structures, or we can point to that emptiness&lt;br /&gt;directly within the structures of the western worldview itself directly&lt;br /&gt;without necessity of invoking foreign spiritual paths.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Either way it is important to continually point toward the reality of the&lt;br /&gt;emptiness, or void that palpably exists at the heart of the western&lt;br /&gt;tradition. That hole at the center of the tradition is its goundlessnes&lt;br /&gt;recognized most clearly by Nietzsche. He forsaw the coming of European&lt;br /&gt;Nihilism and we are now clearly in the throws of what he foresaw.&lt;br /&gt;Westerners look at horror at this empty center, this center that does not&lt;br /&gt;hold. They see it as a black hole of meaninghlessness that pervades their&lt;br /&gt;lives and all their projects. But for genuine spiritual traditions this&lt;br /&gt;emptiness, or void seen from another perspective IS the reality. That same&lt;br /&gt;hole exists in the spiritual marketplace itself. Once one accepts the&lt;br /&gt;emptiness or void at the center of all things then one clears the way for&lt;br /&gt;recieving the myriad meanings that flow into our world from the empty&lt;br /&gt;void. It takes a fundamental shift of perspective in order to see what&lt;br /&gt;horrifies those that cling to things as what is itself the source of&lt;br /&gt;freedom, i.e. non-attachment&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It should be noted that Nietzsche misunderstood and underrated Buddhism.&lt;br /&gt;Many of Nietzsche's ideas are in concert with the ideas of Mahayana&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism. Nietzsche saw Theravadan Buddhism as life denying asceticism and&lt;br /&gt;he understood emtpiness as merely a denial of everything which he&lt;br /&gt;considered nihilistic, in fact he used Buddhism as the paradigm for where&lt;br /&gt;he thought the West was going as it sank into nihilism and despair. He did&lt;br /&gt;not understand that emptiness, as sunyata, actually refered to what was&lt;br /&gt;beyond thought and experience in the sense of being the freedom of the&lt;br /&gt;container of all experiences and thoughts. The beyond of emptiness is&lt;br /&gt;not a transcendental beyond. Emptiness is used to signify the&lt;br /&gt;non-transcendental beyond discovered by the Buddha as the middle way. It&lt;br /&gt;is a middle between immanance and transcendence. In Buddhism there is&lt;br /&gt;a meditation on space itself as being the most concrete manifestation of&lt;br /&gt;emptiness. But then we go beyond that to realize that it is purified&lt;br /&gt;consciousnes that is the ultimate container rather than space, giving us&lt;br /&gt;the bias toward logos and against physus. For the Buddhist seeing things&lt;br /&gt;phenomenologically all Physus is seen as contained in Consciousness. The&lt;br /&gt;Buddhist only denies the externality of the physus which is exacty what&lt;br /&gt;the Taoist affirms. The taoist denies the internality of the logos&lt;br /&gt;instead, ie that human order can be different from cosmic order.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this is to say, simply that the spiritual marketplace, like&lt;br /&gt;orientalism, and in fact almost all products of the Western worldview is&lt;br /&gt;itself nihilistic and the embodiment of emptiness/void is the cure to this&lt;br /&gt;nihilism. It cures it by disarming it from within, not by destroying it&lt;br /&gt;from without. At the core of the spiritual marketplace is emptiness and&lt;br /&gt;void at the fifth meta-level of its consruction which does not exist. That&lt;br /&gt;non-existence of the fifth meta-level shows us existence itself as void or&lt;br /&gt;emptiness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5461688?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461688'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461688'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5461688' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5461678</id><published>2001-09-03T14:59:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-03T14:59:08.490-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:18:22 -0700 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;   From: Kent Palmer - DSL &lt;kdp@exo.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subject: What is Emptiness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have now established that there is a way to break out of the trance of&lt;br /&gt;Being to glimpse existence. Notice that this way, like Nagarjuna's way has&lt;br /&gt;to do with logic, but is more complex than the tetralemma because the way&lt;br /&gt;to emptiness through the tetralemma was blocked by Aristotle's excluded&lt;br /&gt;middle. So there is a much more complex route we have to take up through&lt;br /&gt;the various meta-levels until we reach a dead end at the fifth meta-level&lt;br /&gt;of Being. That dead end has been interpreted as empty existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bateson makes the point that it is not just learning that reaches such a&lt;br /&gt;dead end but also certain quantities associated with the physus such as&lt;br /&gt;motion. This means that both physus and logos reach a dead end at the&lt;br /&gt;fifth meta-level. We further interpret that the end of logos is the&lt;br /&gt;emptiness described by Buddhism and that the end of physus is the void&lt;br /&gt;described by Taoism. In other words, because Buddhism denies the existence&lt;br /&gt;of external reality, i.e. the physus, it is trapped in a onesided view of&lt;br /&gt;the totality of existence, it is only concerned with inward existence.&lt;br /&gt;Taoism on the other hand is mostly concerned with outward existence, i.e.&lt;br /&gt;the void associated with the dead end of the physus at the fifth&lt;br /&gt;meta-level. This is Lo Chen-Shun's criticism of the Buddhists in a&lt;br /&gt;nutshell, and it is this imbalance that STONEHOUSE corrects with his&lt;br /&gt;synthesis of Zen and Taoism. Thus emptiness and void are opposite views of&lt;br /&gt;existence from an emphasis on logos or physus respectively. We can see&lt;br /&gt;existence as a void-emptiness or an empty-void.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taoism and Buddhism has complemenary and opposite goals. One has the goal&lt;br /&gt;of immersion completely in nature, the little guy in the vast chinese&lt;br /&gt;landscape painting like Stonehouse. The other has the goal of complete&lt;br /&gt;immersion in the purified medium of consciousness. Both of these goals are&lt;br /&gt;onesided in their own way. Each considers the opposite goal an illusion.&lt;br /&gt;In order to achieve balance we must consider both the emptiness of inward&lt;br /&gt;existence and the void of outward existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we want to place this understanding in our own tradition, then we can&lt;br /&gt;refer to Plato's divided line analogy in the Republic. In this analogy the&lt;br /&gt;relation between Opinion and Reason is represented by a divided line. The&lt;br /&gt;divided line is first divided between Opinion and Reason. Then Opinion is&lt;br /&gt;divided into true opinion or faith and false opinion or appearances. On&lt;br /&gt;the other hand Reason is divided into representable and non-representable&lt;br /&gt;intelligibles. Once the divided line is established it is used along with&lt;br /&gt;the Sun and Cave metaphors to talk about our relation to the Good, a&lt;br /&gt;non-representable intelligible. However, we can also use the divided line&lt;br /&gt;metaphor in order to situate inward and outward existence. We can&lt;br /&gt;interpret the difference between representable and non-representable&lt;br /&gt;intelligibles as inward existence, i.e. the division in the line itself&lt;br /&gt;has a meaning in this case. We can also interpret the difference between&lt;br /&gt;grounded and ungrounded opinion on the other side of the line as outward&lt;br /&gt;existence, here also the other lesser division of the line means&lt;br /&gt;something. Now once we have seen this meaning in Plato's divided line then&lt;br /&gt;we can ask ourselves what the major division might mean, i.e. the division&lt;br /&gt;between reason and opinion themselves at the higher level. It is something&lt;br /&gt;that is a deeper non-dual than either inward or outward existence. I call&lt;br /&gt;this deeper non-dual manifestation, it is a realm beyond existence that is&lt;br /&gt;indicated by STONEHOUSE in his juxtaposition of emptiness and void in his&lt;br /&gt;poems. It is something prior to the differentiation of inward and outward&lt;br /&gt;existence, prior to the arising of the difference between physus and logos&lt;br /&gt;to be denied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we look deeply into Plato we find many indications of his interest in&lt;br /&gt;defining the non-duals at the heart of the Western worldview. He cites&lt;br /&gt;ever deeper non-duals or indicates them obliquely. At the core of the&lt;br /&gt;Western worldview there exist these very important non-duals that we need&lt;br /&gt;to recognize in order to understand our heritage fully and to understand&lt;br /&gt;the inherent wisdom within the Western worldview. It is only by grasping&lt;br /&gt;this wisdom that it is possible to really understand ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is a strange thing that our worldview and its generation of illusion&lt;br /&gt;drive us toward such destructive activity, while at the heart of that&lt;br /&gt;worldview there is a deep insight into non-duality. It is clear that we&lt;br /&gt;need to lay hold of the non-duality at the core of the worldview and use&lt;br /&gt;it as a way of healing the surface destructiveness and violence to&lt;br /&gt;ourselves and the planet. But how to do that is not clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The worldview has a specific structure in this metaphysical period. That&lt;br /&gt;structure in part is as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DUAL      /   NON-DUAL   \  DUAL&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Logos     /   order      \ Physus&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Limited   /   rights     \ Unlimited&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having    /   goods      \ Not Having&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Existence /   fates      \ Non-Existence&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Actualized /  sources    \ Non-Actualized&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Non-manifest / root      \ Manifest&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the middle are the non-duals hidden within the duals that are the&lt;br /&gt;foundation of the worldview. These non-duals are articuations of existence&lt;br /&gt;within Being.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In each case the left most duality splits into the next level dualities.&lt;br /&gt;For instance, Existence spits into having and not having, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that the eightfold path focuses on rightness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The four noble truths focuses on the lack of goodness, i.e. suffering or&lt;br /&gt;dukkha, the cause of suffering, cessation of suffering, and the path.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we see that The fourfold truth that gives rise to the eightfold path&lt;br /&gt;are an image of the non-dual levels of the good and the right. The wheel&lt;br /&gt;of Samsara on the other hand deals with the cycle of fate. The three&lt;br /&gt;treasures deal with the level of order, order appears in Buddhism as&lt;br /&gt;Buddha, Sangha and Dharma.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know from the abidharma tradition that the specific numbers associated&lt;br /&gt;with the levels are not particularly important, as in abidharma different&lt;br /&gt;numbers will be used by the Buddha for dividing things up at different&lt;br /&gt;times. However the associations in this case are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;order 3 jewels&lt;br /&gt;right 8 path&lt;br /&gt;good  4 truths&lt;br /&gt;fate 12 samsara wheel&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The key is that the non--dual levels are described and articulated&lt;br /&gt;clearly at the core teaching of Buddhism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this way we see that the various major tennants of Buddhism model the&lt;br /&gt;non-dual core of the Indo-European worldview. Buddhism is a Hindu heresy,&lt;br /&gt;it is a reaction to the dualism of the Indian branch of the Indo-european&lt;br /&gt;worldview. It goes to the core of the worldview and models that non-dual&lt;br /&gt;core allowing us to live our lives according to the basic structures of&lt;br /&gt;that core.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need to develop new ways of understanding our relation to that core of&lt;br /&gt;the Western worldview in order to bring the insights into that core in&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism alive again for us. Buddhism is not free floating and culturally&lt;br /&gt;independent. Instead it is a way specificly designed to articulate empty,&lt;br /&gt;i.e. non-dual existence that is hidden in the core of the Western worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the viewpoint of Buddhism is that these non-duals are inward&lt;br /&gt;existence, i.e. they have to do with the purification of consciousness&lt;br /&gt;only and that the external world is an illusion. This view needs to be&lt;br /&gt;tempered ultimately with the view of the Taoists which is that human&lt;br /&gt;beings are embedded in nature and are no different than nature, and that&lt;br /&gt;the forces of nature operate in man precisely the same way they operate in&lt;br /&gt;nature so that man loses himself in nature utterly, in an opposite way to&lt;br /&gt;the losing himself in purified consciousness advocated by Buddhism.&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism pulls the person out of the world and secludes them when they&lt;br /&gt;enter the order of the sangha. Of course, we can say that it is possible&lt;br /&gt;to practice while being in the world, but this was not the Buddha's&lt;br /&gt;original idea. It is only those who left home that were his real&lt;br /&gt;followers. There was not much room for lay people to participate. One of&lt;br /&gt;the interesting things about Jainism is that there was much more emphasis&lt;br /&gt;on the lay people's participation in that alternatitive religion that grew&lt;br /&gt;up about the same time as Buddhism. A lot can be learned by comparing&lt;br /&gt;Jainism and Buddhism about what was seen to be missing from Hinduism in&lt;br /&gt;those times. Jainism's key innovation was the idea of supra-rationality.&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism's key innovation was the ideas of selflessness and the modeling&lt;br /&gt;of the non-dual core of the Indian worldview. Mahayana combined these two&lt;br /&gt;and then took them to a higher level with Nagarjuna's development of the&lt;br /&gt;tetralemma as a means of pointing to emptiness. All this happened inside&lt;br /&gt;the Indian branch of the Indo-european worldview, i.e. inside a worldview&lt;br /&gt;based on Being. They found ways to describe Existence beyond Being, as&lt;br /&gt;supra-rational, as non-dual, as empty, and thus found ways of escaping the&lt;br /&gt;distortions of Being within our worldview that we project on everything.&lt;br /&gt;What we need to do is to find similar ways of escaping today that are&lt;br /&gt;meaningful in the context of the modern western worldview, which is merely&lt;br /&gt;another branch of the same worldview that the Indian tradition discovered&lt;br /&gt;escape routes from. What they did then are directly useful for us today.&lt;br /&gt;The exception is the fact that in our branch of the worldview there are&lt;br /&gt;several barriers set up such as excluded middle that need to be taken into&lt;br /&gt;account in our search for ways of escaping from the Western worldview&lt;br /&gt;today. If we do not take this into account we will not escape. The whole&lt;br /&gt;trick is to understand youself, and who you are is conditioned by the&lt;br /&gt;worldview you are embedded in. You need to realize that the self which is&lt;br /&gt;empty is conditioned by dependent co-arising with the worldview you are&lt;br /&gt;embedded in as a whole. Thus in order to escape from the distortion of&lt;br /&gt;projected Being it is necessary to understand the operation of Being and&lt;br /&gt;the way that Non-Dual and Empty Existence is inscribed into the Duality of&lt;br /&gt;the articulations of Being within the worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The worldview's structure is the structure of your self and vice versa.&lt;br /&gt;It's non-dual core is your non-dual core. As Plato said in order to study&lt;br /&gt;the self we need to look at the city and its structures. There is a direct&lt;br /&gt;mirroring between self and worldview and the worldview has a specific&lt;br /&gt;structure of duality and non-duality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Escaping from the Western worldview actually means escaping into the&lt;br /&gt;empty non-dual center of it. We do not leave it from the periphery but&lt;br /&gt;from its inner most core.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5461678?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461678'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461678'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5461678' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5461654</id><published>2001-09-03T14:58:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-03T14:58:31.066-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:00:07 -0700 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;   From: Kent Palmer - DSL &lt;kdp@exo.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subject: What is Emptiness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is important to establish the inner connection between our human&lt;br /&gt;condition and emptiness. Nagarjuna did that in his time by establishing&lt;br /&gt;the relation between human logic and emptiness. This had already been&lt;br /&gt;mentioned by the Buddha, but Nagarjuna elaborated a synthesis that found&lt;br /&gt;the non-dual middle position of the various schools that had grown up&lt;br /&gt;after the Buddha. His synthesis became the new departure for Mahayana and&lt;br /&gt;actually changed the course of all Indian philosophy, because his major&lt;br /&gt;insight was reincorporated back into Hinduism by Sankara and then other&lt;br /&gt;sects. For instance some the Tamil Savite texts display a sophisticated&lt;br /&gt;understanding of non-duality based on Nagarjuna's insight. By the development&lt;br /&gt;of a logical view of emptiness the heresy of Buddhism was reincorporated&lt;br /&gt;into Hinduism and eventually faded from the Indian religious scene while&lt;br /&gt;flourishing elsewhere such as Tibet and China.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;An interesting case is Dhzong Ka Ba who is clear about the fact that there&lt;br /&gt;is an element of reason in the process of achieving enlightenment. This is&lt;br /&gt;a point that seems to have gotten lost in many Orientalizing&lt;br /&gt;representations of Buddhism that have appeared in the process of&lt;br /&gt;asimilation of these religions into the spiritual marketplace that has&lt;br /&gt;been created within the Western worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We need to understand the relation between Buddhism AND the&lt;br /&gt;Western orientalizing absorbtion phenomena AND the nihilism of the&lt;br /&gt;spiritual marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Orientalization is a very old phenomena which can be seen in Greek and&lt;br /&gt;Roman times. It occurs when foreign customs or cultures are seen as&lt;br /&gt;extreme opposites of the absorbing culture and worldview rather than in their&lt;br /&gt;own terms. Western scholars just naturally see various foreign cultural&lt;br /&gt;artifacts and motifs through the distorted lens of their own worldview and&lt;br /&gt;culture, and it is very difficult to get beyond these misperceptions to&lt;br /&gt;see the foreign cultural artifacts and motifs within their own terms. A&lt;br /&gt;good exmaple of this kind of attempt to go beyond cultural bias is&lt;br /&gt;THINKING THROUGH CONFUCIOUS. However, it is a never ending problem that&lt;br /&gt;foreign ideas and artifacts and cultual motifs are misinterpreted and need&lt;br /&gt;to be reinterpreted if possible independently of cultural biases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other problem we face is that a Nihilistic Spiritual Marketplace has&lt;br /&gt;been constructed in the Western dominant society and culture. There is&lt;br /&gt;a hunger for spiritual ways that are foreign to the western tradition drawn&lt;br /&gt;from all over the world. Buddhism, Sufism, Taoism and a myriad other ways&lt;br /&gt;compete for attention in this nihlisitic marketplace. This nihilistic&lt;br /&gt;spiritual marketplace has its own distortions as various ways compete for&lt;br /&gt;attention in this market.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both the nihilistic marketplace of spiritual commodities and the&lt;br /&gt;orientalization of Buddhism, Taoism and Sufism obscure the actual nature&lt;br /&gt;of these belief systems and their independent characteristics.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This makes the tie to logic all the more important. Logic is something&lt;br /&gt;like mathematics, it is inherent in the human mind, i.e. it is a structure&lt;br /&gt;that is given in all minds the same. Thus the inner structure of logic we&lt;br /&gt;can reconstruct independently how it indicates the nature of emptiness&lt;br /&gt;without recourse to cultural manifestations, we can realize how to point&lt;br /&gt;at this emptiness, from within our own culture without having to rely on&lt;br /&gt;translations of translations and without fear of misinterpretations. What&lt;br /&gt;Nagarjuna showed us was how to derive for ourselves the nature of&lt;br /&gt;emptiness regardless of what culture we are embedded in. By using&lt;br /&gt;Nagarjuna's method we can start from zero and derive the pointing at&lt;br /&gt;emptiness for ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Unfortunately, this is not easy or simple or straight forward in Western&lt;br /&gt;culture because of various premises that were put into place by Aristotle&lt;br /&gt;and which are everywhere assumed within our worldview. Things like the&lt;br /&gt;assumption of excluded middle and the count oriented bias create a lot of&lt;br /&gt;confusion. Another problem is "Being," which obscures our view of&lt;br /&gt;existence. However, it is possible to overcome these obstacles if we&lt;br /&gt;proceed carefully and sincerely.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we talk about the transparency of consciousness, we get some inkling&lt;br /&gt;of the kinds of warpages that can appear in consciousness by looking at&lt;br /&gt;the warpages that appear in our cultural milieu in general as it attempts&lt;br /&gt;to view foreign intellectual artifacts and cultural motifs like&lt;br /&gt;those produced by Buddhism, Taoism, or Sufism out of their own cultural&lt;br /&gt;homelands.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Making these warpages visible, so that emptiness itself can be seen is one&lt;br /&gt;of the intellectual duties of the followers of genuinely spiritual ways,&lt;br /&gt;i.e. ways that start with the premise of formlessness as an ultimate&lt;br /&gt;ground of their spiritual way of looking at the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is another point worth making, which is that in its own realm and in&lt;br /&gt;its own terms the Western Philosophical and Scientific tradition has made&lt;br /&gt;certain progress in the understanding of the nature of things which is&lt;br /&gt;very sophisticated, many of these insights, like analogies from modern&lt;br /&gt;physics, can be used to refine our understanding of emptiness. Capra's&lt;br /&gt;popular Tao of Physics is an example of such an attempt.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So a whole new horizon of Buddhist study has opened up, just as it has for&lt;br /&gt;Taoist study and Sufic study, which attempts to understand emptiness in&lt;br /&gt;the context of the Western worldview directly, i.e. from its own heart,&lt;br /&gt;rather than through Orientalizing translation, or in terms of the&lt;br /&gt;commodification of the Nihilistic spiritual marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact part of this horizon, is the possibility of dialogue between&lt;br /&gt;genuinely spiritual traditions concerning their differences and&lt;br /&gt;similarities. Part of the nihilistic spiritual marketplace is the idea of&lt;br /&gt;Perennialism which seeks to cover over genuine differences and to say that&lt;br /&gt;all paths actually have the same goal, i.e. that enlightenment is the same&lt;br /&gt;for all paths. This is part of the orientalizing distortions introduced by&lt;br /&gt;the dominant Western worldivew as it seeks its extreme nihilistic&lt;br /&gt;opposite rather than to know the foreign traditions in themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are genuine differences between genuinely spiritual traditions, and&lt;br /&gt;these need to be explored and made clear along with the shared work of&lt;br /&gt;clarifying the role of formlessness that these various traditions share in&lt;br /&gt;common.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;All this is to say that the work to be done, which has not started yet as&lt;br /&gt;far as I know, is a task of self understanding by the Western tradition in&lt;br /&gt;its own terms, but from the perspective of formlessness which can be&lt;br /&gt;expressed variously as emptiness as in Buddhism, void as in Taoism, or&lt;br /&gt;annihilation of the self as in Sufism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nagarjuna has pointed the way on how this might be done from a Buddhist&lt;br /&gt;perspective. Other traditions need to look within themselves for how this&lt;br /&gt;might be done given their historical resources.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Pursuing this effort of opening out and exploring this new horizon is not&lt;br /&gt;just something interesting to do, but extremely important in terms of&lt;br /&gt;species survival, because the delusion of the Western worldview is so&lt;br /&gt;extreme that it threatens the life of the whole planetary ecology.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Asking the Question: What is emptiness? What is Void? What is Annihilation&lt;br /&gt;of the Self and Going On? when placed at the center of the context of&lt;br /&gt;the Western dominant worldview devouring the planet, its creatures and&lt;br /&gt;itself takes on an urgency and a necessity that far out weights other&lt;br /&gt;intellectual pursuits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Western Dominant worldview has a fundamental sickness exemplified in&lt;br /&gt;the lives of the people living within this worlview, and which many are&lt;br /&gt;trying to escape via the commodities of the spirtual marketplace. However,&lt;br /&gt;orientalizing tendencies obscure the fundamental nature of these spiritual&lt;br /&gt;paths as does the competition in the nihilistic spiritual marketplace&lt;br /&gt;itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the questions is whether we will rise to this challenge and&lt;br /&gt;attempt to provide a remedy for this sickness which is comprehensible&lt;br /&gt;withing the terms of the Western worldview itself that avoids the&lt;br /&gt;distortions of Orientalizing and the Nihilistic Spiritual Marketplace.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sickness is particularly virulent in this case and it drives us to&lt;br /&gt;provide access to an understanding of emptiness that cuts through the&lt;br /&gt;illusion of our worldview and the selves caught up in that worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What we have in our favor is the post-colonial collection of the various&lt;br /&gt;ways which have genuinely spiritual aspects, so that we see the sickness&lt;br /&gt;from various genuinely spiritual perspectives, rather than just one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But even though the sickness of our worldview is virulent it is no&lt;br /&gt;different than the sicknesses of the self and culture that have existed&lt;br /&gt;before. It is merely that dialectically greater quantity of means have led&lt;br /&gt;to a qualitative leap in the instensity of the illness. Or at least that&lt;br /&gt;is our hope, that past wisdom derived from multiple spiritual traditions&lt;br /&gt;that address inherent formlessness will suffice to cure the sickness&lt;br /&gt;homeopathicly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course, we won't know the answer to that question unless we set out on&lt;br /&gt;the journey of opening up and exploring that new horizon, that proceeds to&lt;br /&gt;attempt to show how emptiness or void can be accessed at the very heart of&lt;br /&gt;the Western world dominant tradition that cuts through its own essence and&lt;br /&gt;thus presents the possibility of a cure for the the widespread delusion&lt;br /&gt;that leads us to destroy ourselves and all the creatures of the planet along&lt;br /&gt;with us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the journey that we need to take the first steps on, as I see it.&lt;br /&gt;Hopefully what ever is onesided in my own vision will be corrected by&lt;br /&gt;others who want to attempt a similar journey for themselves. It is not a&lt;br /&gt;journey out into the alien and foreign paths from other cultures randomly&lt;br /&gt;selected from all the spiritual paths that appear in the nihilistic&lt;br /&gt;spiritual marketplace. It is a journey into the heart of our tradition,&lt;br /&gt;and into the core of our selves as westerners, which will lead us to admit&lt;br /&gt;as Nietzsche did our own sickness, but which will lead us to seek a cure&lt;br /&gt;from within ourselves that lays hold of emptiness, or void as a basis for&lt;br /&gt;self-understanding and the promotion of wisdom. We need to become western&lt;br /&gt;Buddhas and western Bodhisattvas by means drawn from our own cultural&lt;br /&gt;mileiu and our own intellectual and experiential as well as philosophical and&lt;br /&gt;scientific tradition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In Buddhism there is a concept of the Western Paradise. What was not said&lt;br /&gt;is that the Western Paradise was a transformation of the kakatopia (hell&lt;br /&gt;on earth) that we live in today, i.e. the Western Hell that has engulfed&lt;br /&gt;planet Earth in our post-colonial times. Understanding the&lt;br /&gt;extra-logical non-concept of emptiness is the key to this desparately&lt;br /&gt;needed transformation in our selves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5461654?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461654'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461654'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5461654' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5461628</id><published>2001-09-03T14:56:00.001-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-03T14:56:44.753-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>  Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:55:00 -0700 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;   From: Kent Palmer - DSL &lt;kdp@exo.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subject: What is Emptiness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would like to continue by talking about the difference between count and&lt;br /&gt;non-count nouns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Recently I discovered that Sanscrit like Chinese is primarily a non-count&lt;br /&gt;language and that this effected not just Indian logic but the whole&lt;br /&gt;question of the philosophical basis of Buddhism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Non-count nouns are either abstractions or masses, like the sea. In&lt;br /&gt;Chinese everything is considered non-count unless given a special marker&lt;br /&gt;to signify count. It seems that Sanscrit was also originally non-count&lt;br /&gt;dominated, and that the count emphasis developed slowly. This is why their&lt;br /&gt;logic emphasized pervasion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems that Buddhism attempted to go back to those non-count roots of&lt;br /&gt;the Indian Logical tradition. Things were not considered essences that&lt;br /&gt;possessed attributes. Rather there was the concept of the dharma within a&lt;br /&gt;dharmati (i.e. spacetime locus). The Dharma is like what traditionally was&lt;br /&gt;called a tatva, i.e. a nucleus of pattern that was irreducible. In&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism originally there were about 100 dharmas and only the self was&lt;br /&gt;considered empty. As we get into Mahayana Buddhism more and more of the&lt;br /&gt;Dharmas are considered empty until they are all considered empty. But a&lt;br /&gt;tatva like a dharma is a specific conherence of attributes pervading a&lt;br /&gt;spacetime locus rather than an essence that possesses attributes which is&lt;br /&gt;the count way of looking at things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A recent book called THE DISCOVERY OF THINGS says that this difference&lt;br /&gt;between count and non-count explains the difference between Aristotle and&lt;br /&gt;the pre-aristotelians like Plato.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is also a good book that explains how Chinese philosophy can only be&lt;br /&gt;understood in terms of non-count ways of looking at things and is&lt;br /&gt;misunderstood when we attempt to construe it according our count biases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One reason for the ready acceptance of Buddhism in China, I now believe is&lt;br /&gt;that it attempted to go back to the non-count oriented approach to things&lt;br /&gt;of the original sanscrit and thus it was very congruent with the non-count&lt;br /&gt;ways of looking at things of the Chinese.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not only did Aristotle set up the principle of excluded middle that makes&lt;br /&gt;emptiness invisible to us, from a logical point of view, but he also&lt;br /&gt;concretized the tendencies in Greek to emphasize count ways of looking at&lt;br /&gt;things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus even though we have non-count or mass terms in our language we tend&lt;br /&gt;to think of everything from a count perspective, especially&lt;br /&gt;philosophically. To understand Buddhism it is necessary to be able to&lt;br /&gt;switch back and forth between count and non-count perspectives on things&lt;br /&gt;philosophically, because the middle way is between these two.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But when the Buddhists say that the self is empty, it is much easier to&lt;br /&gt;model this from a non-count way of seeing things, because there is no&lt;br /&gt;essence that possesses the attributes of the thing which is autonomous and&lt;br /&gt;real beyond the attributes in their conherence. Rather we have pervasion&lt;br /&gt;of instances by masses with attributes and a logic of containment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But ultimately we have to admit that the tetralemma applies to this too:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A = Count&lt;br /&gt;~A = Non-Count&lt;br /&gt;Both Count and non-Count&lt;br /&gt;Neither Count nor non-Count&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emptiness is between the both and neither or rather in the logical fourth&lt;br /&gt;dimension beyond the tetrahedron of&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;count and non-count&lt;br /&gt;count or non-count&lt;br /&gt;count nand non-count&lt;br /&gt;count nor non-count&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But what this tells us is that emptiness rises above both sylogistic logic&lt;br /&gt;and Indian pervasion logic&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since we are trapped in a count oriented philosophical tradition we need&lt;br /&gt;to be able to switch to a non-count way of looking at things first, as&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism did by talking about Dharmas within spacetime loci, i.e.&lt;br /&gt;dharmati. But ultimately we need to go further to the middle between&lt;br /&gt;syllogism and pervasion logic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Emptiness is beyond&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;syllogism and pervasion&lt;br /&gt;syllogism or pervasion&lt;br /&gt;syllogism nand pervasion&lt;br /&gt;syllogism nor pervasion&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Syllogism is about possession of attributes by things that have autonomous&lt;br /&gt;essences. Buddhism denies the autonomy of these essences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism gives us a model of dharmas in dharmati i.e. masses with&lt;br /&gt;attributes that pervade spacetime loci, but ultimately these masses are&lt;br /&gt;found empty as well. The denial here is of the boundaries that delmit the&lt;br /&gt;masses, and this leads to a vision of interpenetration which appears in&lt;br /&gt;late Mahayana.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason the Chinese could comprehend and further the Buddhist teaching&lt;br /&gt;so well is that they were on the same wavelenght as the buddhist with&lt;br /&gt;regard to the count verses non-count approach to things. The denial of&lt;br /&gt;syllogistic logic and the re-emphasis on the roots of pervasion logic gave&lt;br /&gt;way to an understanding that when we deny the boundaries posited by&lt;br /&gt;pervasion logic then we get to a positive picture of what emptiness is&lt;br /&gt;which is talked about in terms of interpenetration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But not only is the self as autonomous essence denied and interpenetration&lt;br /&gt;affirmed by the denial of boundaries on the pervasive masses, but we must&lt;br /&gt;move beyond even those waymarks, i.e. into the logical fourth dimension&lt;br /&gt;beyond the tetralemma of pervasion and syllogism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What's that? We cannot say it. We cannot experience it. In other words it&lt;br /&gt;is beyond logos and physus as we understand it within the Western&lt;br /&gt;Tradition. But that does not say it is just something amorphous and vague&lt;br /&gt;without its own characteristics. Rather what lies beyond the sayable and&lt;br /&gt;the experienceable is something quite definite and unique defined&lt;br /&gt;negatively by syllogistic and pervasieve logics and indicated by them. We&lt;br /&gt;see this in the silence of the Buddha with regard to the proposal of the&lt;br /&gt;atimonies. Not all silences are alike. Rather this particular silence was&lt;br /&gt;in response to and in relation to the proposal of those specific&lt;br /&gt;antinomies that defined and identified that particular silence of the&lt;br /&gt;buddha that emanated from his perfect enlightenment. This is the major&lt;br /&gt;claim of the Buddha, not that he was enlightened, there are myriad forms&lt;br /&gt;of enlightenment, but that he was perfectly enlightened. Perfect&lt;br /&gt;enlightenment is a unique fulcrum and foundation of experience and&lt;br /&gt;thought, the absolute middle way between all the extremes. There is only&lt;br /&gt;one unique absolute middle between all extremes and oppositions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In this silence none of the antinomies are affirmed, what ever they are&lt;br /&gt;and now ever many there are. But that which is silent has no essence that&lt;br /&gt;possesses the attrbutes of what exist. But that which is silent has no&lt;br /&gt;boundaries to the masses that encompass its instances. One analogy is&lt;br /&gt;transparency. Perfect enlightenment is perfect transparency. It is not&lt;br /&gt;that it is a source of light but that what ever light or dark there is&lt;br /&gt;passes through this consciousness without obstruction, like a mirror in&lt;br /&gt;which all things are reflected no matter how beautiful or how ugly without&lt;br /&gt;distortion. The mirror is uneffected by what it reflects. So transparent&lt;br /&gt;consciousness is uneffected by the experiences or thoughts that arise in&lt;br /&gt;it. There is no obstruction or interference with what passes though this&lt;br /&gt;consciousness. With this analogy we can see why enlightenment can be said&lt;br /&gt;not to be a thought nor an experience. Rather it is a clarification of the&lt;br /&gt;medium of thoughts and experience. That clarity has specific properties&lt;br /&gt;indicated by the Buddha in the early pali suttras of the Theravada school.&lt;br /&gt;For instance there is an emphasis on ESP type miracles such as mind&lt;br /&gt;reading of the thoughts of others. Eventually it was realized that these&lt;br /&gt;miracles in themselves were not necessary. But it is interesting that&lt;br /&gt;early on it was thought that it was necessary to establish the superhuman&lt;br /&gt;nature of enlightenment as realm of human experience. Later it was&lt;br /&gt;realized that miracles too were specific experiences and had nothing to do&lt;br /&gt;with the clarification of the medium of experience and thought.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are more used today to think about media. Marshall McLuhen made his&lt;br /&gt;name by saying that "The Medium is the Massage". Cyberspace and the Web is&lt;br /&gt;a new interactive medium that we are all coming to terms with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One way to think about emptiness is in terms of the clarification&lt;br /&gt;rendering transparent of the ultimate medium, i.e. consciousness. The&lt;br /&gt;reason that perfect enlightenement is unique and has its own speific&lt;br /&gt;characteristics is that clarified consciousness as a medium has its own&lt;br /&gt;unique characteristics that are defined by our finitude and humanity. The&lt;br /&gt;reason that we cannot say anything about exaclty what this is, is because&lt;br /&gt;it is the container for what ever we say and what ever we experience. So&lt;br /&gt;the silence of the Buddha is a silence of perfect transparency and perfect&lt;br /&gt;clarification. Like water that is 100% pure. For a while they were selling&lt;br /&gt;bottled glacier water around here that was very pure. When you drank it&lt;br /&gt;the body would react to that purity because most liquids that we drink are&lt;br /&gt;very impure comparatively. So almost perfect purity gives a particular&lt;br /&gt;sensation in relation to the impurities we are used to experiencing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we purify ourselves, then we become like that water to others, i.e.&lt;br /&gt;something that they are not used to seeing, or experiencing, or&lt;br /&gt;thinking about even though they cannot put their finger on what it is that is&lt;br /&gt;different.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Purified consciousness lets go of its clinging to things, because it does&lt;br /&gt;not have an autonomous essence that can possess the attributes of either&lt;br /&gt;things or itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Purified consciousness does not set up boudaries to the masses that&lt;br /&gt;pervade its spacetime loci, it becomes identified with the spacetime field&lt;br /&gt;itself and accepts all things that appear within that field.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Purified consciouness is silent about the antinomies it is presented and&lt;br /&gt;holds on to the unique fulcrum that is the midpoint between all those&lt;br /&gt;extremes. That midpoint is defined negatively by the plethora of&lt;br /&gt;extremes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The tradition is continually attempting to describe this state of affairs&lt;br /&gt;that can only be indicated and never grasped, and so successive partial&lt;br /&gt;approximations are posited and then synthesized into higher level balanced&lt;br /&gt;indications of the middle way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point is to step into this locus oneself and view existence from this&lt;br /&gt;unique viewpoint. That stepping into the midpoint or fulcrum is called&lt;br /&gt;enlightenment, which is the experience of the emptiness of the self and&lt;br /&gt;the interpenetration with all things. Stepping into that locus transforms&lt;br /&gt;consciousness itself, because your unique consciousness becomes the&lt;br /&gt;fulcrum and bedrock of all existence, selfless, interpenetrated, balancing&lt;br /&gt;all opposites and extremes. This is to say that enlightenment is not&lt;br /&gt;generalized, but unique to each individual. In other words the experience&lt;br /&gt;and thoughts of enlightentment have no traces, no marks and are identical&lt;br /&gt;with our own mind, but can be seen as that mind in a purified or&lt;br /&gt;transparent state with respect to all thoughts and all experiences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The claim of the Buddha to have achieved PERFECT enlightenment can be&lt;br /&gt;understood as the laying hold of the unique middle point beyond all&lt;br /&gt;extremes including the logical extremes of syllogism and pervasion.&lt;br /&gt;Enlightenment is extra-logical in this sense as not being grasped or&lt;br /&gt;contained by logic by going beyond logic which points toward it without&lt;br /&gt;limiting it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We call this state induced by the realization of this perfect and unique&lt;br /&gt;foundation supra-rational. Supra-rationality cannot be understood within&lt;br /&gt;the limits of the excluded middle and non-contradiction rules set up by&lt;br /&gt;Aristotle. The ultimate that can be approached in those terms is the&lt;br /&gt;Paradoxical and Absurd. These mix the conflicting antinomies. But instead&lt;br /&gt;the Supra-rational keeps separate the antinomies and allows them to be&lt;br /&gt;simultaneiously true without interference with each other. This is a&lt;br /&gt;logical idea introduced by the Jains. Mahayana Buddhism might be&lt;br /&gt;understood as a Hindu heresy that combined the idea of Selflessness of&lt;br /&gt;Hinayana Buddhism and the concept of Supra-rationality introduced and&lt;br /&gt;perfected by Jainism. Supra-rationality is another way to approach the&lt;br /&gt;fulcrum of emptiness by seeing how contradictories are simultaneiously&lt;br /&gt;true without interference with each other or mixture in existence. This is&lt;br /&gt;seen to be impossible within the delimited realm of excluded middle set up&lt;br /&gt;within the Western tradition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In other words not only is the point of the absolute middle a place where&lt;br /&gt;all the extremes are avoided, but also surrounding it contradictories are&lt;br /&gt;simultaneousley true and are thus resolved. This allows the fundamental&lt;br /&gt;philosophical problem of the Western Tradition, i.e. Nihilism, to be&lt;br /&gt;defused by the positing of a deep non-duality at the heart of all things.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Non-duality means not One and not Two, in other words it is an alternative&lt;br /&gt;to the dichotomy of One and Many that is basic to the Western Tradition.&lt;br /&gt;Only the unique fulcrum of existence is non-dual.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So supra-rational, non-nihilistic and non-dual describe the&lt;br /&gt;characteristics of emptiness and interpenetration which is beyond&lt;br /&gt;syllogism and pervasion logics. These are very specific characteristics&lt;br /&gt;that only the point of absolute middle beyond all extremes indicated by&lt;br /&gt;the tetralemma has.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We think of a fulcrum as being something that we can affix a lever to in&lt;br /&gt;order to move things. This fulcrum is an empty point at the heart of&lt;br /&gt;consciousness that we can apply ourselves to in order to transform our&lt;br /&gt;consciousness. It is a bedrock in the sense that it cannot be distrubed or&lt;br /&gt;changed by anything in thought or experience. It is the calm empty center&lt;br /&gt;of the cyclone of consciousness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When a huracane comes onto land the most people are killed because&lt;br /&gt;they think the storm is over when the quiet center passes over them, they&lt;br /&gt;come out into the open and then are hit by the other side of the circle of&lt;br /&gt;the huracane. Thus in a world where things are constantly changing it is&lt;br /&gt;difficult to stay within the quiet center of the cyclone of consciousness.&lt;br /&gt;Adopting that center as the origin of the coordinate system of ones&lt;br /&gt;thoughts and experience so that it is the center no matter where the&lt;br /&gt;cyclone of consciousness goes is the problem we all face. Rather we all&lt;br /&gt;take other origins as the basis of our particular points of view. We&lt;br /&gt;experience the calm sometimes as the cyclone passes over us but are always&lt;br /&gt;hit by the opposite wind when the calm is over. Making that emptiness&lt;br /&gt;itself at the center of the huracane where ever it moves our reference&lt;br /&gt;point is not easy. But that is the task at hand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5461628?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461628'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461628'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5461628' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5461614</id><published>2001-09-03T14:56:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-03T14:56:04.470-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:17:22 -0700 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;   From: Kent Palmer - DSL &lt;kdp@exo.com&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Subject: What is emptiness?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best way to approach Emptiness is via the tetralemma which is the&lt;br /&gt;traditional way. Tetralemma is&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A&lt;br /&gt;~A&lt;br /&gt;both A and ~A&lt;br /&gt;neither A nor ~A&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This contravenes the Aristotle's law of excluded middle. It takes us&lt;br /&gt;dirctly into the unthinkable and outside Being because Parmenides said 0&lt;br /&gt;that" thought and Being are the same". Thus it takes us into alien&lt;br /&gt;territory for the Western Philosophical and Scientific tradition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In effect this amounts to pointing to a logical placeless place which is&lt;br /&gt;orthogonal to the tetrahedron of Boolean logical and, nand, or and nor,&lt;br /&gt;i.e. into some logical fourth dimensional space.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now a key point is that not only is this orthogonal logical placeless&lt;br /&gt;place unthinkable it is also not experienceable via normal experiential&lt;br /&gt;modes because of its four dimensional quality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Notice that in the fourth dimension there are various properties that no&lt;br /&gt;other dimension has, such as the fact that all knots fall apart without&lt;br /&gt;being untied.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So just because we cannot experience it nor think it that does not mean&lt;br /&gt;that it does not have peculiar properties of its own.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Normally we think that properties have to be experiential or thinkable.&lt;br /&gt;But in this case the "properties" of this logical placeless place are&lt;br /&gt;non-intuitive inversions of our experience and out thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When we realize these unthinkable and nonexperiential properties we find&lt;br /&gt;that they are really shot through all of our experience and thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So as the Lotus Suttra says Form is Empty and Emptiness is Form. In other&lt;br /&gt;words there is ultimately no difference between the two, but ordinarily we&lt;br /&gt;do not notice this ultimate reality underlying our experience and our&lt;br /&gt;thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The fact is that we do not need Buddha or Buddhism in order to understand&lt;br /&gt;emptiness for ourselves. But Buddhism is the best example of a religion&lt;br /&gt;that has realized the expression of this ultimate or perfect enlightenment&lt;br /&gt;historically.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what Nagarjuna showed, i.e. that we can express emptiness in terms&lt;br /&gt;of logic and that it is inherent in human experience and ways of thinking.&lt;br /&gt;The Buddha, as he said, was only one of many human beings who have&lt;br /&gt;realized this ultimate foundation of human expereince and thought.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We cannot express it in language, but can only point to it with language.&lt;br /&gt;The idea is that we point to it, then we move into it, and then we come to&lt;br /&gt;"experience" our thinking and experience anew from the perspective of an&lt;br /&gt;immersion in emptiness. The point is that this transformation of our&lt;br /&gt;experience changes the whole nature of the experiental locus itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Buddhism as a historical phenomena shows us more and more sophisticated&lt;br /&gt;approximations and pointings to this ultimate foundation of life and&lt;br /&gt;consciousness. Over time the Buddha said more and more interesting things&lt;br /&gt;in the suttras about emptiness and enlightenment as people who became&lt;br /&gt;enlightened attempted to express what things looked like from this&lt;br /&gt;radically new perspective. However, in a sense all of the various&lt;br /&gt;interpretations and theories of enlightenment are true, just some are more&lt;br /&gt;sophisticated and subtle than others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The closest thing to this in the Western Tradition is the work of Meister&lt;br /&gt;Eckhart.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For a critique of Buddhism see Lo Chen-Shun's KNOWLEDGE PAINFULLY&lt;br /&gt;ACQUIRED.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would also recommend the work of the Chinese Zen Monk and Taoist Adept&lt;br /&gt;STONEHOUSE whose poetry is translated by Red Pine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taoism has a completely different way of approaching the same thing.&lt;br /&gt;Stonehouse combines both Zen and Taoism to give an even more sophisticated&lt;br /&gt;indication that satisfies the critique of Lo Chen-Shun.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is a middle way. Anything we say will miss the mark and be onsided&lt;br /&gt;from one perspective. The tradition continually combines these partial&lt;br /&gt;perspectives to attempt a deeper pointing toward the ultmate bedrock of&lt;br /&gt;experience and thought which is beyond experience and thought, but&lt;br /&gt;which is not without its own definite characteristics. Thus perfect&lt;br /&gt;enlightenment is something very definite and specific even though it cannot&lt;br /&gt;be captured by any experience or any thought.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5461614?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461614'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461614'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5461614' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-5461609</id><published>2001-09-03T14:55:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2001-09-03T14:55:35.706-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>&gt;    Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:34:34 -0000&lt;br /&gt;&gt;    From: kcs_ra@yahoo.com&lt;br /&gt;&gt; Subject: Emptiness&lt;br /&gt;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt; I would like to hear some thoughts on emptiness, there are so many&lt;br /&gt;&gt; differnt opinions I see. Is there anyone here who can give a clear&lt;br /&gt;&gt; understanding of it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-5461609?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461609'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/5461609'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_09_01_archive.html#5461609' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-1981681</id><published>2001-01-15T10:56:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2001-01-15T10:56:57.713-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>You my imaginary reader, YOU are all that is not alien in my self. Around you coalesces all the common&lt;br /&gt;thoughts, pedestrian ideas, normal subjects of conversation that allows me to escape from what is other&lt;br /&gt;than myself. We must break free of this hindrance in my self together, and walk out bravely into the wilds&lt;br /&gt;of thought, where the trails end and even the tracks have vanished.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-1981681?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/1981681'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/1981681'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_01_01_archive.html#1981681' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-1971643</id><published>2001-01-14T15:35:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2001-01-14T15:35:44.886-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Some savage thoughts sometimes come and take me aback. They take me back into the deep background of who I am not. As thoughts they stray from the path of my self. They let me know who I am not, who I was not, and who I will not be. From these savage thoughts I learn the most, I learn what is alien within me that seeks to be heard despite my self.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-1971643?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/1971643'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/1971643'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_01_01_archive.html#1971643' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1960608.post-1960620</id><published>2001-01-13T14:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2001-01-13T14:02:36.026-08:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>Some thoughts are private. Some thoughts deserve to be kept to oneself. But these thoughts seem to have escaped  into a vitual world. I wonder where they will end up going and who will be infected by them. Perhaps an imaginary reader will appear, as if from no where, to think these thoughts again and transform them into their own.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/1960608-1960620?l=ontos.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/1960620'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1960608/posts/default/1960620'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ontos.blogspot.com/2001_01_01_archive.html#1960620' title=''/><author><name>Kent Palmer</name><uri>https://profiles.google.com/106933999970943130206</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='//lh5.googleusercontent.com/-X7sFbUH-A6M/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAABtQ/IzppPQaPMP4/s512-c/photo.jpg'/></author></entry></feed>
